Friday Tour d’Horizon, 2017 Week 02

As we all know from Junior High French, Tour d’Horizon means Hognose has too many stories in his open tabs at the end of the week. What do you expect? It’s Friday the 13th!


I don’t wanna work, I just wanna bang on my gun all day.

Yeah, This is a Curio and Relic this Year

It’s a 1967 Colt AR-15 Sporter SP1, serial number SP09088, which by the number was made in 1967, and is therefore C&R eligible this year.

Rock Island Auctions, which includes this rifle in its 10,000 gun mega-auction in February, explains:

Did you know that per the ATF, “Firearms automatically attain Curio & Relic status when they are 50 years old”? Did you also know that the earliest AR rifles were made in the mid-1960s? Meaning that, if you have your C&R license, you could have guns like this Colt AR-15 shipped right to you. The one shown here will turn 50 later this year.

One more thing for Gun Ban Barbie and her gang to flip their lids over (to use some slang of similar vintage).

Gun Porn: M1A1 Thompson

There’s a decent if brief article at Recoil by the aptly named Jamie Slaughter, covering the wartime M1A1 Thompson, and in true Recoil tradition it’s got some lovely photographs.

The lines of the TSMG were so lovely that even the bowdlerized wartime model still looks gorgeous, like a movie star at the gym. It was also remarkably ergonomic for its day.

It reminds us, we’ve been meaning to write up our Kahr M1A1 SBR: the good, the bad, and the ugly.

Remington RP9

Well, this is Remington’s big gun for 2017: a 9mm service pistol. (Its grip is sized so that .40 and .45 versions are possible; only the .45 has been announced). The .45 will have a 15-round magazine; with the 9 you have 18 rounds in the mag.

We dunno about you, but if we can’t kill it with 18 rounds (let alone 36), we’ve got no plans to start a fight with it. Is anybody going to load this up with 18 and the extra round in the chamber?

Yeah. Probably. We know our people.


It has a light rail, trigger safety, ambi slide stop and reversible mag release, and a loaded chamber indicator (the extractor, right side only). One clever feature is a sort of flat on the forward surface of the rear sight, to allow the slide to be racked one-handed if necessary.

The RP9 and RP45 is made in Remington’s new Huntsville, Alabama plant (for which Huntsville can thank Andrew Cuomo). And it’s very aggressively priced, at $489 List, which makes it competitive with anything out there, even Glock LEO pricing.

It is a Glock-alike in many ways, a striker-fired pistol with a polymer frame, but the slide runs less on the frame and more on a steel chassis inside, which is the serialized part.

That makes it a bit like the SIG 320, except there’s no interchangeable frames (there are interchangeable grip swells, which are becoming standard these days). The pistol is very simple, with a low parts count and extensive use of rapid and cheap manufacturing technology (which is how they get to $489).

There is no need to pull the trigger for disassembly, which means cops will have to try harder to shoot themselves with this firearm. (That same 5% who never get the word will still manage it).

Gun Stocks update

Pre-Election closings: RGR 64.40, SWHC 28.45, VSTO 38.94.  [8 Nov 16]
-8 week’s closings: RGR 53.20, SWHC 24.13, VSTO 40.02. [18 Nov 16]
-7 week’s closings: RGR 52.50, SWHC 23.82, VSTO 41.05. [25 Nov 16] [short trading day and week]
-6 week’s closings: RGR 50.25, SWHC 21.10, VSTO 39.66. [2 Dec 16]
-5 week’s closings: RGR 51.90, SWHC 21.07, VSTO 38.62. [9 Dec 16]
-4 week’s closings: RGR 53.45, SWHC 21.59, VSTO 36.81. [16 Dec 16]
-3 week’s closings: RGR 54.05, SWHC 22.11, VSTO 38.02. [23 Dec 16]
-2 week’s closings: RGR 52.70, SWHC 21.08, VSTO 36.90. [30 Dec 16] (this was the final close for SWHC, which renamed itself AOBC).
Last week’s closings: RGR 54.15, AOBC (ex-SWHC) 21.00, VSTO 38.08. [6 Jan 17]

This week’s closings: RGR 51.35, AOBC 20.60, VSTO 28.70. [13 Jan 17]

Red means “lower than the previous week.” Everybody’s lower, but Vista Outdoor really got shelled. Why? Vista crashed on opening Thursday, down over 25% after being pretty stable. What happened is that “a softening retail environment and increased promotional activity” in one of Vista’s several business units requires them to take a charge to the intangible value item called “Goodwill” on the balance sheet. (It’s explained in more detail here, but “softening retail market” means “sales are down,” and “increased promotional activity” means “each sale is costing us more”). The interesting thing is that this charge is not in the Firearms and Ammunition part of the business, but in the segment that produces shooting and archery accessories. But it’s such a big charge that it’s going to turn a nice quarterly profit into a disastrous ($300 million plus) loss. Vista doesn’t think they’ll have a similar problem with gun and ammo sales, but they haven’t done that arithmetic yet, so the Street has run screaming to other opportunities.

Disclaimer: Your Humble Blogger holds RGR, bought at about 56.40 on 9 Nov 16. It bottomed in the 40s later that day. We still think it has longterm growth potential, and we like the dividend, but we’ve lost (on paper) thousands of dollars.

Gun Poly-Ticks

Pro-Gun Bills in Congress

A number of bills are moving in Congress. The ones that have some odds of passage are progun. The two we’re watching most closely are national reciprocity, and limited NFA reform. This is the best chance we’ve had in many years to get these legislative priorities. Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY) has vowed to kill them in the Senate, but he may not have the votes.

Close the ATF? Let’s Think First

Another legislative bombshell would eliminate the ATF. Frankly, the Bureau has it coming after the ATF’s Thomas F. Brandon campaigned for gun control and Hillary! last fall, not to mention its history of scandal, but we might want to think this over a little more.

If you close the ATF, what happens to the problem children? You have to do something with the SES managers and SACs that produced the Gunwalker program, including but not limited to the Fast & Furious scheme to arm the Sinaloa cartel as (1) a counterweight to Los Zetas, and (2) to promote domestic gun control. Under the proposed bill, they all chop over to the FBI. Does anybody think he FBI wants Thomas Brandon? Dave Voth?

It also seems like it’s punitive to the line special agents. Many in the gun culture think ATF does nothing but infiltrate the Hells’ Angels and try to entrap suburban dads into NFA violations. We get the ATF press releases every Friday, and not only are they fighting against the real scourge of gun shop burglaries, they’re also putting away a lot of gang members and career criminals who, frankly, need to be put away. Most of your regular ATF agents are plain old 1811 Criminal Investigators, who want to investigate crimes, not manufacture them.

The FBI also has been playing partisan political police, lately, and displeasing members of both parties. Aggrandizing the FBI doesn’t seem wise.

Frankly, a better move for Congress would be to retain the ATF, but compel greater transparency, and strip it of some of the regulatory authority that it has abused. In effect, put the ATF under a consent decree.

The Dog That Has Not Barked: ITAR

Nothing has been said yet about yanking the State Department’s ITAR chain. It’s a chain that needs to be yanked, for sure, but again the underlying problem is one of Congress delegating legislative authority to power-crazed, unaccountable bureaucrats.

Usage and Employment

 The hardware takes you only half way. We got nothin’ this week, just because we’re running late. 

Cops ‘n’ Crims

Cops bein’ cops, crims bein’ crims. The endless Tom and Jerry show of crime and (sometimes instantaneous) punishment.

Chicago Record Adjustments?

We saw a site today — didn’t grab the link — that said the final box score for 2016 was 816, per the medical examiner. That probably counts the justifiables, though, which would almost square it with’s 796. Also, either Jackass or Second City Cop noted a program at University of Chicago for the admissions office to pay students up to $500 to come up with good lies about how safe the city is, because it’s starting to cost them top candidates.

Criminals and Child Welfare Authorities

We recently told the story of Sara Packer, who with her boyfriend was charged with murdering and dismembering her adopted daughter, Grace. Packer mère was a former adoption official. There were many horrifying details. But more horrifying details have emerged, including the fact that Sara Packer’s former husband went to prison for, inter alia, raping an underage Grace, and that 30 kids passed through their home as fosters. And that all this happened while they “led a transient life.”

Yeah, those are the people in charge of judging your parenting, America.

Sumdood did Whaaaat?

Lord love a duck. This creep, one Joey Kennedy, set a cop on fire, which is just par for the Black Criminals’ Lives Matter course, but he really overstepped it… he set the K9 on fire, too.…

The cop and the K9 are going to be OK. The perp may also recover, unfortunately. (The cop, understandably, lit him up — no pun intended). He has a trifecta record: violent, property, and sex crimes (including child rape). Why was he even out?

And is there any member of the extended (very extended?) Kennedy clan that doesn’t wind up in a cell sooner or later?

The Perils of Kathleen: When the Chick is Gone and All You Got Left is the Bills…

We’re giving Korrupt Kathleen a week off. It’s too depressing to look her up. Well, we will note that her last legal bill cost the taxpayers of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania a tidy $1.435 million. The outgoing placeholder acting-jack AG got the lawyers to knock off almost $400k from their initial bill, which was almost $2 million. For a diversion attempt, as she faced a photo finish with a grand jury (which she lost).  And the saga continues.

Unconventional (and current) Warfare

What goes on in the battlezones of the world — and preparation of the future battlefields. 


Your choice. Do you guys want to see a brief explanation of what “Civil War Sharpshooters” were, or a breakdown of the “Intelligence Disciplines” (all the “INTs”), building on Friday’s 17 Intel Agencies post? Pick one, in the comments. Or we’ll pick it for you.

Veterans’ Issues

Is it time to o disband this thing yet, and letting all its bloatoverhead seek its own level in the Dreaded Private Sector™?

Exchanges to Sell Online to Vets


Right now, to use the military exchanges, you need to be eligible. The services have defined that as active, reserve, or retired. (And there are some provisos and oddities). But until 2017 veterans who are not retired, your typical one-tour-and-home honorably-discharged vets, haven’t had exchange access.

The good: the online exchange services will be open to all of you one-tour wonders like they are to us knuckle-dragging lifers.

The bad: not until Veterans Day (11 November 17!), because it’s going to take them that long to make eligibility work. And vets who got out pre-1981 might have to jump through some hoops to get their service recognized, as that’s the event horizon of the computerized records.

The ugly: we can’t imagine why anybody with acccess to the really real economy would want to shop at the exchanges. But they think they have incredible bargains. (Actually, the exchanges are exempt from state taxes, so if you live in a high-tax jurisdiction like 9.5% Missouri or send-us-your-firstborn-male-child New Jersey you might actually save.

Story here. Exchange website here.

NBC New York: Shootings Caused by Veterans!

You can read this indignant article at Mediaite, but the guy is railing about one of those lists that media drones have the unpaid intern put together, listing every crime committed by a tickin-time-bomb veteran. As if being a veteran is why they did it, and not, say, being nuts, or being mohammedan (but we repeat ourselves).

The implication that military service somehow causes mass shootings is even worse considering most of the veterans listed had known motivations entirely devoid of their military background.Micah Johnson was a black militant who believed in race war, Wade Michael Page was a white supremacist who wanted the same. Nidal Hassan… hmm, the timeline forgot to list his motive. Guess it was workplace violence.

Yeah, we’re all ticking time bombs.

Funny how the white racist and the black racist wind up in exactly the same place, shooting folks to cause a race war. That was what Charles Manson was trying to do, too, although his gang was more stabbing than shooting. It didn’t work then and it won’t work now.

Vets Helping Vets

A few of you know Tilt Meyer. Some others might at least know his articles and books. John Stryker Meyer ran recon and was a Covey Rider in SOG. Then he wrote about the experience. But he remains pretty active today helping vets, and a San Diego paper did a pretty decent article about him. We really ought to give it more of a write-up here, but at least this is something, and you can always go to the link.

Lord Love a Duck! ALL NEW

The weird and wonderful (or creepy) that we didn’t otherwise get to.

This is Your Doctor on Overconfidence


The American Academy of Pediatrics, which also wants to ban guns, got peanut allergies completely wrong. Best thing to do is give at-risk kids some nut products in infancy, when their immune system is developing. The absence of the stimulus leads later to allergy, and then it’s too late.…

Do these barbers have any more advice for us?

76 thoughts on “Friday Tour d’Horizon, 2017 Week 02



    I deal with ITAR matters regularly, and never was there a greater plague on free commerce and good relations between allies.

    My employer has a policy of avoiding American made products wherever possible to avoid potential ITAR problems that could result in huge penalties for us, even for an innocent mistake. One American high-tech manufacturer has seen millions of dollars of orders from us go to non-US suppliers as a result of this insanity.

    Arrrf….please excuse me….rant off.

    And for mine…Civil War Sharpshooters please.

    1. Sommerbiwak

      Same experience here. ITAR is pretty pointless when you can get the same electronics from China… Once again a case of well intentioned, but not well done. As most law making is all over the world most of the time.

      As not being of the USian persuasion I see it as involuntary promotion of economic development in the rest of the world. ;-)

  2. runalltheway

    Another +1 for the civil war sharpshooters, please.

    Also, does Ruger really expect to make money on a new plastic 9 that’s so aggressively priced?

    1. Hognose Post author

      From what Glock makes on a pistol, yeah, and some of the new US guns should be cheaper to make than Glocks. The gross margin on these could be really high.

  3. Wesley W Bishop

    I’ve gotta chime in on the opposite tack, please write about intelligence and its subtypes!

    Also, ITAR sucks.

  4. arturo

    I could really go for getting rid of sporting purposes clause. since they included that to parts! it is impossible to import rare firearm parts, I am looking at you stgw 57.

    also second killing itar

    1. John M.

      Repealing sporting purposes would require legislative action (which I’m for). But President Trump could direct ATF to interpret “sporting purposes” very broadly via executive action. Right now, ATF’s interpretation is very narrow.

      -John M.

      1. Hognose Post author

        Yep, it’s embedded in USC 18 (criminal law) via the Gun Control Act of 1968 and subsequent law, copied straight from Nazi law by crooked Senator Tom Dodd.

      2. bloke_from_ohio

        There is something wrong with a law if its enforcement can vary so wildly based on the current resident of The White House. But then again the sporting purposes clause is a dumb part of a dumb law. And that dumb law is but one in a sea of other dumb laws.

        I loath executive action where legislation is truly really required. Given how easy executive action is to undo, I would really rather offensive laws be repealed whole cloth. How much of President Obama’s legacy will be erased, for better or worse, by President Elect Trump? When the “other team” gets back into power they will simply put the same or worse restrictions back into place when they get access to the pen and phone.

        Executive orders and directives like tourniquets can be very useful for the short term, but eventually you have to get the guy to surgery and eventually you have to fix/repeal bad laws. I fear that congress will not actually fix it without pressure, and that temporary executive actions will relive enough pressure to give them an excuse not to. Because good legislation writing like good surgery is hard work.

  5. GQ

    Civil War Sharpshooters. My Great-Great Grandad was one. His rifle, with the long brass scope, was once a family heirloom, now lost to time.

    1. Hognose Post author

      That’s sad. Unfortunately the analog world has delayed my posting today, but both stories (Sharpshooters and Ints) will get written.

    2. Hognose Post author

      GQ, let me also add, my old team sergeant’s family still has a family Sharps. It was painted black with rustoleum over the years it hung over a fireplace that was used every year. When he finally had it checked out, it turns out to be one of 2 or 3 known survivors of a peculiar model that was used only by one Connecticut regiment. But it wasn’t a target rifle like your Greatx3s, just a regular breechloading Sharps rifle, only with an odd barrel length and fittings.

  6. John M.

    Incomplete paragraph alert:
    “It’s a chain that needs to be yanked, for sure, but again the underlying problem”

    -John M.

    1. Hognose Post author

      Thanks, it was supposed to read, “… but again the underlying problem is one of Congress delegating legislative authority to power-crazed, unaccountable bureaucrats,” and has now been updated thanks to you catching the error, John!

  7. Middle Man

    Another “me too” striker fired service pistol that misses the mark. I suppose cost saving manufacture must also equal ugly. Sadly, Big Green’s been working on that großen hinten pistol for several years without any aesthetic improvements along the way.

    1. John M.

      I don’t think I’d by that off-brand Glock if it were the last pistol at the store and someone had threatened my life.

      -John M.

      1. Steve M.

        Remington’s pistols are quite ugly. Considering the plethora of other options out there, I can’t see Remington ever getting my money.

    2. Hognose Post author

      I’ve been thinking that two market niches that are wide open in the 9mm pistol market are “inexpensive,” and “beautiful.”

      1. Sommerbiwak

        Problem is with nine para that the prize for beauty has been taken at the start in 1908 already. All successors loose automatically. ;-)

        And inexpensive AND beautiful at the same time is probably never going to happen. Though I still have a fondness for the clear lines of the first Glocks. But then I love Bauhaus design, where form follows function.

  8. Nynemillameetuh

    1: Civil War Sharpshooters! Anything you have about their camouflage (or lack thereof), tactics, theory, equipment, and maybe even their rifles.

    2: Growing up I had a dependent military ID. I’m unsure if they even issue those to family members that don’t live on base anymore. The one exchange I’ve ever shopped at wasn’t very impressive. It mostly sold liquor, junkfood, electronics, and lots of Army/Air Force merchandise.

    3: Trying to start a race war? Bud, it started a long time ago. If you think it’s not already on you’re probably a D student. Which would explain confusing a Sikh temple with a Mosque.

    1. Hognose Post author

      No race war here in New Hampshire, but those French Canadians that invade every summer do bear considerable watching.

      1. Haxo Angmark

        yes, I know. NH suffers from a shortage of young Black males, Muslims, & etc. All this will shortly be remedied. I am also disappointed – but not surprised – by your attitude toward the actually quite dispensible ATF; no matter. Sensen’s bill likely won’t even get out of committee. There’s about a half-dozen other alphabet-gestapo bureaucracies that need to be purged/liquidated, but patriotard Trump won’t do it.

  9. Michael Bane

    Civil War Sharpshooters, so I can steal all your research for an upcoming GUN STORIES and maybe drag Hognose onto teevee as an expert!

    RE: ATF, having had “dealings” with the ATF, I would be in favor of disbanding the agency, destroying the buildings they worked in and salting the ground they stood on. #NotAFan.

    Michael B

  10. 6pounder

    Wow, the Carthage approach Mr. Bane. Sounds appealing.
    Naturally I would like to see the War Between the States sharpshooters article.
    On the two gun bills mentioned, was the second one about the hearing protection act I’ve been reading about, concerning taking suppressors off of the NFA list?

      1. Stacy0311

        Would love it if the registry was open again. But considering Bloomberg, Watts and the rest of the howler monkeys, I don’t see that happening any time soon.

  11. Cap'n Mike

    Sounds like the Military Exchanges are feeling the heat from Amazon same as everyone else in retail.

    Civil War Sharpshooters please.

  12. Raoul Duke

    I’ll be the lone voice in the wilderness crying, “Tell us the truth about your Kahr M1 Thompson SBR!”

    I’ve been contemplating an M1 SBR, since I don’t feel like shelling out the price of a new Subaru for a transferable version built by drunken monkeys in West Hurley, but made valuable by retarded representatives.

    1. Hognose Post author

      I will do so at length (maybe using video, if I can figure it out), but short review: looks at a distance like an M1. Trigger pull far too long, why? Action spring about nine times too heavy (prob. because bolt’s too light). Finish all wrong, semi-gloss black not park. Edges not broken on any of the parts, sharp edges, while in the production drawings AND in Findlay’s reverse-engineering drawings, they’re actually not broken but radiused. And the mag release will only accept Kahr mags, not GI mags (this can be replaced if one has a quantity of GI mags. It’s either-or.

      Converting it to a reasonable copy would require:
      1. doing something about the gorilla strength needed to work the action. A real Thompson is not like this!
      2. Rounding all the metalwork.
      3. Replacing with a GI mag release. (I’ve toyed with a design for a release that would hold both types of mag, but it’s not very elegant, would be fiddly to make, and might introduce new failure modes).
      4. Stripping off the crap finish, and Parkerizing instead. I’m not sure what the finish is but suspect a baked-on duracoat type stuff — hard to remove.
      5. Shortening the stock. (ISTR the trigger pull is 17″, fine if you’re the last surviving arboreal hominid).

      I’m not sure why the recoil spring is so over-strong but I bet if I ran the numbers the bolt would be way too light. A lead weight might fix that and improve operation.

      To have a smith do all that would go four figures. To do it yourself involves at least dozens of hours. Kahr could do it trivially during manufacture and get an extra $200-500 for the “premium model” M1A1 (messing with the bolt though, would require an expensive resubmission to the Firearms Technology Branch. I understand that it was a much, much earlier FTB opinion that led to the mag release cock-up (in Numrich days), and FTB doesn’t care about it now.

      I got a deal on the SBR used (I bought it with an 03A3 and a Garand for $3k). They go for $1200 or so wholesale IIRC. It is great fun to shoot. Kids and women really like firing it from the hip (try not to think about the cost of .45 ball), but unless she’s the gal on the weightlifting posters at my strength trainers, she’s not going to be able to work that action safely.

      1. Raoul Duke

        Hmmm…interesting. Thanks a bunch for the quickie rundown.

        I’m naturally leery of semi-auto Tommy Guns, ever since I had the AO/Hurley “1927A1 pistol”, back in the 1990’s. It took some replacement parts and a trip back to the factory to get it functioning right. There were some funky things going on with its mechanism, too.

        1. Hognose Post author

          Yeah, this is the same design but under new management and frankly better manufacturing quality. Justin Moon is actually a real gun guy, so there is that.

  13. emdfl

    IRT the batfeieio, the most fun idea I’ve heard so far was that someone wrote to the Trump Team suggesting that John Ross(“Unintended Consequences”) be appointed head of the agency.

    1. weredragon

      I’m Facebook friends with John Ross, he’s got several people pushing for him as Director ATF and offered to serve for a Dollar a Year Salary, like Trump plans to.

      1. Jakew7

        “Unintended Consequences” is a rare, wonderful, and valuable book/work.

        Right in there with 1984, Brave New World, and Animal Farm….especially for home schoolers’ required reading.

        Had the opportunity to read it several years ago.
        Had to pass it along to another reader pal.
        Wanted/want my own copy, but am not paying these prices. WTF?…and how can that get fixed?

        My Dad, a WW2 Battle of the Bulge vet and artist, and Deerfield Academy and Amherst graduate, used to pass out boxes of “None Dare Call It Treason”. Prescient man? No.
        He just saw things clearly.

  14. BillC

    Concerning round capacity, you assumed one person, even then, pistol calibers suck. What if there are more attackers that just refuse to quit? If something happens, we generally don’t get to pick our fight, the number of bad guys, the distance, or time of day, unless we initiate it. We do what we can to minimize risk (don’t go to South Chicago while white at midnight alone), but even then. So yeah, I’m maxing out a mag with one in the chamber and carrying an extra mag, and a light, and a knife.

  15. Toastrider

    I abstain from voting. Hognose could write about blue jeans and I’d read it. I’m really not picky. :)

  16. Tom Stone

    Just a thank you for the technical and Historical posts, they are a joy to read.
    I’m in California and I’ll be moving to a model 92 in .357 and a double action revolver in the same caliber for house/self defense guns.
    Recipricocity of CCW would make a big difference here although the screams form Sacramento might ruin what’s left of my hearing.

    1. bloke_from_ohio

      Electronic hearing protection is not that expensive anymore. If you get the right one you can pipe in tunes or podcasts.

  17. MattL

    In re: the RP9, we just got one in at the shop. Fit and finish seem solid enough, although I’ll reserve my judgment until the model shows it’s not another R51 in real-world use. The trigger is surprisingly nice, at least.

    Now as to the price… our shop has it listed at $390ish. If the street price is <$400 most places, I imagine a whole lot of these pistols will sell. And if they work, they could even be a good deal.

  18. DSM

    Never been a fan of AAFES. They bask in the glory of a captive market. Their food vendors suck. If you can name a location overseas that doesn’t have at least one ongoing fraud, black marketing, or what we called the “dependent mafia” investigation I’ll buy you a drink. Whenever they show up to the deployed locations they screw over the American GIs while catering to coalition. Having said that, it was better than nothing and we were usually thankful to get what we did.
    While we’re at it, ditch DECA in the CONUS too. Contract that mess out.

  19. Bill Robbins

    Watched “Jadotville” last night on Netflix. True story (movie version) about Irish troops in 1961, assigned as UN Peacekeepers (oxymoron) in Congo break-away region of Katanga. The Irish came under a 5-day siege by local forces headed by French mercenaries. The Irish took heavy fire but all survived, eventually surrendering when out of ammo. The whole incident was apparently buried by the UN and the Irish, until the Irish vets were finally recognized for valor decades later. Lots of WWII firearms, mixed with later stuff. Interesting story. Dag Hammerskjold’s UN plane went down over the Congo during the same incident.

    I vote for Sharpshooters.

    1. Haxo Angmark

      i remember the Hammarskjold thing. He was found dead in the crashed plane, still strapped into his seat but hanging upside down. Shortly thereafter, the U.S. Postage Dept issued it’s first 2-color stamp (black + yellow) in his memory, but did some of the first sheets with one of the dies reversed. I was then a stamp collector. The headline in PHILATELIC NEWS read: “Hammarskjold found inverted”.

  20. Bill Robbins

    One more thing, about gun stocks. All the diversification into “outdoors” and accessories has exposed AOBC (formerly a well known company called Smith & Wesson, now rendered anonymous by management), RGR, VSTO to the vagaries and greater competition of the larger retail market. Guess what? Now, these companies must compete for investor attention against the likes of Nike, Under Armour, VF Corp. and other much bigger and better known outdoor / sports / accessories companies. I blame the strategic consultants and the investment bankers, and greedy management taking their eyes off the target.

  21. 6pounder

    Drunken monkeys in West Hurley? That really hurts. My 1928 now has a complex and I feel it will take several mags to correct it.

  22. David

    Regarding ATF agents who just want to investigate, I knew one involved in dealing with these idiots:

    ATF Says Racists Plotted to Kill Obama

    “Both individuals stated they would dress in all white tuxedos and wear top hats during the assassination attempt.”

  23. James

    “Frankly, a better move for Congress would be to retain the ATF”.Hmmmm…..,perhaps,but the best move would be just rid ourselves of atf completely,lay off all the workers,then starting from the alphabet beginning with them move forward through all the alphabet soup groups and keep dismantling more,perhaps having a few become one agency and with this get rid of most of the laws in this country that are unnecessary and the only face reason these agencies exist.

  24. Scott


    “including the fact that Sara Packer’s former husband went to prison for, inter alia, raping an underage Grace,”

    What kind of incompetence does it take to keep Grace in the ‘care’ of Parker? Nevermind that the first abuse took place under Parker’s nose. Did no one think it was a little bit of a bad idea to keep the girl under the care of a woman whose husband was jailed because of relations with the girl? Like maybe the wife might blame the girl instead of her creep husband? Especially if she also was a creep who married a creep?

    What kind breathtaking incompetence is this? Whoever failed to exercise the judgment to remove that girl from that home is an accomplice to the murder, IMHO.

      1. Scott

        Generally, I consider the less the government attempts to do, the better off we’d all be. ‘Nothing’ being a asymptotic goal, never quite reached, but all else equal, the better place for us to err.

        Howsoever, in this case, the government already messed up royally with the girl’s placement in that cesspit the first time. Doing ‘nothing’ to change that after the hubby was convicted, isn’t plain, ordinary, SNAFU-level governance. It’s criminal, IMO.

  25. Sommerbiwak

    “We dunno about you, but if we can’t kill it with 18 rounds (let alone 36), we’ve got no plans to start a fight with it. Is anybody going to load this up with 18 and the extra round in the chamber?”

    When the first muzzle loader with a second barrel had been crafted some one said that nobody needs this.
    magazine cut off
    three round burst trigger (or its two round cousin)
    when the first double stack magazine came to market
    when Thompson presented his drum
    when the first sharp stone shard was put into the tip of a spear…

    And there have been several pistols in the past with more than 15 cartridges in the magazine. IIRC a SIG P210 prototype held eighteen in the late forties. Swiss Army went with the single stack of course…

    So you are now officially one of those old types that speak up against any newfangled sillyness, Hognose. ;-)

  26. Nato

    Could you please write on Civil War Sharpshooters for tomorrow and prepare a series on intelligence agencies like reading topographical maps?

    While requesting posts, could you revisit part 2 and publish when you have an opportunity to see and handle the Remington IRL? Those are some ambiguous photos that could mean the piece is either sleek and aggressively cool or as ugly as as 2 rods of rebar spot welded together. I’m probably never going to be in the same room as one, so need to live vicariously through you for this. My imagination is going nuts.

  27. Ray

    I thought Colt started marketing the SP-1 before 1964. Wouldn’t that have put AR’s on the C&R list several years ago?

    1. Hognose Post author

      Yes, one made in ’64 was on the list a few years ago. This one was made in 1967. It’s not the age of the weapon design, but the age of that particular serial number weapon. (ATF often puts younger weapons on the C&R list, too. There are several qualifications for the list).

  28. Daniel E. Watters

    The RP9 and RP45 magazines look suspiciously like modified Para-Ordnance magazines for the P18.9 and P14.45 respectively. The obvious differences are the extra magazine catch notch for the reversible magazine catch, and the different baseplate.

    The good news is that talented pistolsmiths will find a way to crop the grip frame to use shorter Para-Ord magazines. With barrel and magazine swaps, you should also be able to convert the RP9 to .38 Super, 9x23mm Winchester, or .22 TCM; and the RP45 to .40 S&W or 10mm Norma.

  29. Cannoneer No. 4

    Berdan’s Sharp Shooters have recently been covered fairly well on American Heroes Channel, but you could tell us more about Berdan the primer man, Beecher’s Bibles, Sharps cavalry carbines and Confederate Sharps clones.

  30. Docduracoat

    I have not heard any more news about gunsmiths threading a barrel to be interpreted as making a firearm that is subject to Itar and gunsmiths must register and pay $2,000 every year.
    Did the State Department back off on that?
    It seems that every firearm related item now has an Itar warning on it not to export the item

    1. Hognose Post author

      No, the DOS has not backed off.

      Congress wrote nasty letters, mostly Republicans, but six Democrats did also. Of course, that was before the election, and the Dems were all the usual “I support the 2nd Amendment, but” weasels who support it except for the registration, bans and other “common sense measures” they’re all for… like Schumer’s catamite Joe Manchin. (Joe Donnelly D-IN is probably a 50% pro gun Senator; when it comes down to a party line vote where his vote matters he votes with his party, but otherwise he leans pro-gun. Of course, in Indiana, he’s in a tenuous position).

  31. Aesop

    Recoil magazine?
    The epitome of anti-gun gun rags??
    The bible of Fudd-ism?

    I don’t care if they did pictorials of naked pornstars and coeds holding disassembled Thompsons, I wouldn’t pick their magazine, free, out of a dustbin.

    Recoil getting rid of Jerry Tsai never included an apology. Zumbo the whole enterprise.
    Gun photo porn I can get from Oleg Volk, and with exactly the opposite editorial point-of-view.

    1. Hognose Post author

      I think you’ll find the editorial staff wholly overhauled, and the editorial position entirely reversed. It’s all gun guys now, and they’ll be dancing for reciprocity and NFA rollbacks — just watch.

      I was much of your mind but Our Traveling Reporter became a convert and has encouraged me to give them a chance to return from exile.

      I think poor Tsai, who has returned to the world of California car tuner magazines, himself, doesn’t even quite understand what he did wrong.

      1. Aesop

        It’s all gun guys now, and they’ll be dancing for reciprocity and NFA rollbacks — just watch.

        Fair enough.
        When I see it, I’ll believe it.

        I have my doubts that the publishers know what Tsai did wrong.
        Even now.
        (Except for causing the exodus of most of their advertisers until he fell on his civilian-legal sword.)
        Tsai never did, as his weasel-worded faux “apologies” demonstrated.

        If I needed to support anti-gun editorials hereabouts, I’d just buy the L.A.Times.
        Talk about not knowing your base.

        It was a good idea for a new take on same old gun pR0n, executed by retards.
        Who quickly shot themselves in their foot.
        While it was in their mouth.
        And then they reloaded.

        They could have done worse: hired Jim Zumbo.
        He’s fit, he’s rested, he’s ready.

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