Self-Defense Lessons from a Mass Murder

Here’s John Correia from Active Self Protection again, with a grim set of lessons from a mass murder that took place at the Cascade Mall in Burlington, Washington on 23 Sep 16. The police still express puzzlement about the motives of the shooter, Arcan Cetin (AR-zhahn SHEE-tin), a naturalized or derived citizen of Turkish birth. Several factors include his expressed admiration for ISIL (although he does not seem to have been an observant moslem), a lengthy violent criminal record, and possible mental illness. He concentrated on women, and some media reports say he called out the names of one victim he knew, Sarai Lara, to get her attention before he killed her.

His chosen weapon was a Ruger 10/22 (a rifle that even before this crime, Washington AG Bob Ferguson had demanded be banned). He stole the gun (and two others that he did not use) from his father. Cetin killed by getting close to his victims and plying them with multiple shots. When he finished, he dropped the weapon and exited the mall. Surveillance video led police to his car, and him, within 24 hours. He is now awaiting trial for the murders you are about to see.

We do not normally say this, but this video shows actual homicides. Consider that before you decide to watch it.

John makes great points, framing it with the Run, Hide, Fight methodology as well as his usual expectation that people frame desperate-situation survival with his own mantra: Attitude, Skills, Plan.

We were going to add a comment about how unfortunate it is that no one was armed in the mall that night, and how we were surprised that John (who misses little) would have missed that. But we found this in his description of this video on YouTube:

An additional lesson on this mass shooter…there was an off-duty Sheriff in Macy’s that night, but HE DIDN’T HAVE HIS GUN ON HIM. That makes me so upset. Carry your dang firearm, friends. Everywhere.


It’s worse. Island County Sheriff Mark Brown was in the mall with his wife, unarmed, and so his decision was to hide. And he was so embarrassed about that act of cowardice — which is exactly what it was — that he kept that fact secret for a month. Embarrassed? He should be.

More of John’s always sensible and frequent analyses — the guy posts a video every day, for crying out loud! — at his website at and his YouTube channel.


58 thoughts on “Self-Defense Lessons from a Mass Murder

  1. Trone Abeetin

    The commentator looks like he never ran from, hid from, or fought the urge to have many and several donuts, on the regular.
    I’m no specimen, but, I look askance at these internet gurus who look like they’d have a thrombo at the first sign of shots fired in anger.

    1. Al T.

      I’ve been watching John’s videos (including his personal shooting ones) and my take is that he is one of those big guys who can move very well when he wants to do so. Even so, he does us a great service by finding and dissecting these violent encounters. Always lessons to be learned…..

      1. Trone Abeetin

        I love me some Vickers, he’s been there, done that and got the t-shirt.
        I would bear Larry’s ammo all day long if he’d let me. No homo.

      2. John Distai

        John mentioned he was a Kenpo guy. I’ve seen some big Kenpo guys move very well.

        I’m sure Larry can move well while simultaneously teaching, shooting and posting Facebook comments on his phone.

        1. Hognose Post author

          I can’t speak for John, but Larry has addressed his off-and-on weight problems. Like a lot of us, he’s pretty broke-dick. I will also say on my own behalf that it’s a problem to go from a .mil job that allowed you tons of on-duty time to work on stuff like language training, marksmanship, and fitness, to .com and all that comes out of your “free” time.

    2. Inventive

      I know a couple “bigger” guys that could run rings around me and then beat my face in, so I reserve judgement on most people like John. Especially if they’re not saying anything off the wall nuts (voodoo judo, double wielding Desert Eagles when he goes to the mall, etc.). I’ve never watched a video he narrated and thought that he was crazy, it all made sense to me.

      1. Trone Abeetin

        Didn’t say he was crazy or out of line. I just question his bona fides and such. Sorry if I have an opinion.

        1. DaveP.

          I’ve met a lot of truckers, bikers, retired Marines, and yes cops who were all on the far side of “big guy” and were all still harder than coffin nails. The ability to fit into the same pair of jeans you wore in high school doesn’t necessarily translate into tactical superiority, nor does having a bad BMI mean someone’s advice isn’t worth listening to.

    3. MD

      John is highly committed to self protection. I suspect he could acquit himself fairly well if necessary. And his videos are highly informative.

  2. james

    a man with a rifle beats a man with a handgun every time. isn’t it unwise to engage a mall shooter with a rifle, when all you have is your ccw handgun?

    1. Hognose Post author

      Well, you can try running away like the older dude in the video, or hiding your face from him like the lady at the make-up counter. (Both were murdered).

    2. Ken

      I don’t think so. If you have a strong stomach, look for video of the Dinkheller killing. It might have turned out different if he had closed the distance instead of retreating.

      1. Trone Abeetin

        Saw that video, he shoulda fired his ass up from jump street.
        He wouldn’t have had to closed the distance if he had greased his loony carcass.

  3. John Distai

    He mentions situational awareness with the first victim. The lack of this in the population is a huge pet peeve of mine. Women especially make me angry because of their lack of it. Misogynistic of me, I know.

    I’m trying to figure out how to resolve this in my own home, especially with the female members. My first pass will be having them read the book “Left of Bang”. I’m not confident they would understand or apply the lessons. I’d love any tips for those who have been successful at teaching this skill to their female family members.

    1. Daniel

      Try having them read Sentinel by Pat McNamara first. It is a smaller book and simply presented but full of good info for the novice. They may be more receptive to it than the dissertation that LoB may appear to be.

    2. Boat Guy

      I have taught self-protection to women for some time now. We had access to prison interviews for convicted rapists and nearly all of them chose their victims BECAUSE they didn’t make eye-contact; “I knew they/she woulldn’t recognize me” (one wonders how they were ultimately convicted, though). We teach women to acknowlege all folks they encounter; it’s NOT a come-on, it’s merely “I see you”. These women are trained in the course to be able to protect themselves up to and including deadly force, so they are able to acknowlege others without undue fear.
      About the deadly force portion. When I decided Iw anted to teach I audited some other “self defense” classes and several were teaching moves that were potentially lethal but did not classify those moves that way in my presence. I wouldn’t want a student to inadvertently kill someone they were not prepared to kill.
      Most of our successes ahve not involved stranger attacks but more usually abusive ex-spouses.

    3. rocketguy

      I’ve tried to impress situational awareness on my wife and daughters. Hopefully, it “took”. Head up – the phone can wait, reading the receipt can wait…hell, it’s not safe to do that stuff in a parking lot due to traffic alone. Does anyone in this parking lot stand out? Is anyone not moving from car to store or visa versa?

      I’m pretty sure I steered a mugger away a few years ago with eye contact – “I see you.” Meth-head looking fella on an intercept course that suddenly decided he had other places to be and did a 180…

    4. Hognose Post author

      Gavin de Becker is the kind of self-promoter that makes my skin crawl, but his The Gift of Fear might be worth reading and seeing if you should pass to the womenfolk.

      1. LCPL Martinez USMC

        This guy has a fetish with Marines, for the longest time he was hiring just Marines, then after SEALs became all the rage, he started just focusing on SEALs.

        But the work is actually just baby-sitting rich teenagers to 20 somethings and watching them drink and do coke. The personal protection industry in the Left coast is crazy. Another one making a mark in Silicon Valley is (you learn some tech here)


      I have never been able to make a women understand that they need to be more aware and less trusting. My advice was only taken to heart by my last GF, and then only after some on broke into her apartment and stole some stuff. i would rather the women in my life to not have to learn these things the hard way. Luckily she was not home and was under not physical threat during the break in. I was finally allowed to nail her windows shut after that and she carried a monkeys fist, some pepper spray and a knife afterwards. She being limited to what she could carry since she was here in a college visa.

      1. bloke_from_ohio

        My wife grew up in a family that relished in pranking each other. Startle ambushes and sneaking up on one another were a favorite activities for her as a kid. Growing up hooked on the TV show Psych further encouraged her to pay attention to detail. Her study of history and archeology in college make her better at picking up details than most as well. She is seldom face down in her phone unless we are at home.

    6. MD

      Left of Bang is a decent read. But Gavin DeBecker’s “Gift of Fear” is a better entry point for those new to self protection.

    7. John Distai

      Thanks for the suggestions. I either have, or purchased the books mentioned. I also purchased “Escape the Wolf” and “A Guide to Improvised Weapons”. Now if I can get them to read them. Studying a martial art may help them as well.

      1. Boat Guy

        As long as one distinguishes a “martial art” frrom fighting. “Martial Arts” are often excellent workouts and great builders of body flexibility but beyond that many are merely “dance class”.

        1. John Distai

          One way to differentiate is if the place offers birthday parties. It seems a vast majority of them do these days.

  4. Docduracoat

    I’m an overweight middle aged white guy
    I do not pass myself off as an Internet guru, just a tax paying family man.
    I carry my gun everywhere, even into my employers gun free zone
    I had it in my pocket at my daughters recital at church last night
    I wonder how many others were carrying concealed in church last night?
    I hope a lot of people.
    My kids are forbidden to walk around staring at the phone screen
    They do it enough at home!
    I am amazed at how many people are in condition white
    They are going to get run over even if they are are not assaulted

  5. John Stephens

    RE: Sheriff Brown

    While all Sheriffs are politicians, In many counties the Sheriff is more of an executive for the local government than an actual law enforcement officer. Even where I live, the Sheriff in my county wears a uniform to work and the one in the next county over is a suit and tie guy. Presumably the people of Island County know what they’ve got and are OK with it, and if they don’t they know what to do about it.

    1. Gray

      I distinctly remember that (Island County) Sheriff saying that he did not agree with (I am paraphrasing) of LEO’s carrying off-duty, or words to that effect.

  6. 6pounder

    Two policemen in the mall and both unarmed? Are you kidding me?! That dog won’t hunt around here. A policeman, of any department or county, is NEVER actually off duty.

    1. LCPL Martinez USMC

      ***”Island County Sheriff Mark Brown was in the mall with his wife, unarmed, and so his decision was to hide. And he was so embarrassed about that act of cowardice — which is exactly what it was — that he kept that fact secret for a month. Embarrassed? He should be.”***

      Though I do take issue with cops not carrying in public, I don’t take issue with them playing hero, especially when with family (their priority is the safety of their loved ones, whether the decision is to run, hide or fight, the priority is not to play hero, that’s a very personal decision).

      If by themselves, then another issue is identification, ie. off-duty cops shooting each other etc. But if one chooses to play hero here, his heroic actions will be protected by blanket immunity, ie. I thought he was the shooter.

      Cops have to have their guns with them simply because criminals hate cops and many of whom would kill them if given the chance, ie. either they recognize you as a cop or personally know you to be one from experience.

      In a public shooting incident, right then and there, it’s very difficult to ascertain who’s who, could be some kid who’s been abused, who is simply paying back his abuser (that’s happened before in which a cop actually saved a violent pedophile and shot his long time victim since he had the gun) …

      Leave it to the guys with radios and a plan and a team, and police identifications, maybe you can get on your cell phone and describe the scene, but if you and your loved ones found a safe hiding hole, we shouldn’t expect them to run to the sound of fire, with nothing but a pistol just simply because they are cops .

      Granted in this particular scenario, a non-shooter shooting maybe a single off duty cop with a gun could’ve made a difference, but the initial point is their priority is family, whether you take an oath or not, it’s always been that.

      Playing hero is a personal call. I have no problem with them making that decision.

      But they do have to carry their guns (the decision to engage or not is theirs). Though the playing it secret speaks to character, anyone in a leadership role should play that part after everything is controlled… whatever the excuse is for not playing here,

      cowardice or protection of loved ones, leadership is your job, even if it’s simply to act as a good witness… get in there and fill in some holes for the investigating officers.

      p.s. For those who’ve already made up their minds to playing hero (I have no problems with others playing hero), be ready to ID yourself as the good guy with a gun. And vet your target, you might be shooting at another good guy with a gun.

      1. Gray

        “…their priority is the safety of their loved ones, whether the decision is to run, hide or fight, the priority is not to play hero…”


        1. LCPL Martinez USMC

          I would include that an off-duty cop’s taking on more risks he really didn’t sign up for (if he chooses to play hero) , so best to give these incidents to cops on duty who are connected to more information and man-power.

          If they play hero , great… if they chose not to, also great (they’ll probably be just in the way). Weigh out opportunity with priority here. That’s part of situational awareness.

          1. raven

            And this is why it won’t stop.
            Our enemies have more courage than we do.
            Simple, distasteful but true.
            This stuff is stopped by the population having enough outrage and stones to tear these fuckers apart, regardless of consequence.
            Our civilization either is worth defending, or it is not.


            Couldnt agree more with what Raven said below.

            And yeah it is a Cops job to stop a mass shooter. Thats why they exist. Would some guy in the army get to bow out of a fight in a city because his family lived in it?

            I submit to you that by pursuing a career as a cop, and all the things that come with it, you are agreeing and swearing to defend those who can’t defend themselves.

            Those elderly women has every right to be protected as a cops family. yet they died shot down like dogs.

            but you know, I bed the cop has a good dental plan..

          3. John M.

            What Shawn said. If cops want to be respected for their bravery, then they need to, well, act in a respectably brave manner.

            I have no beef with a non-LEO saying, “me and mine” in a case like this. I didn’t set up the laws and the courts this way, but this is how they are set up. So it’s probably what I’d do.

            But the guys we give badges to? Yeah, they’d better march to the sound of the guns. Every last one of them, every single time. No radio? No backup? Well, you get the incident you get, not the one you want. Improvise, adapt, overcome.

            -John M.

          4. LCpl Martinez 29 Palms

            ***”And this is why it won’t stop.
            Our enemies have more courage than we do.
            Simple, distasteful but true.
            This stuff is stopped by the population having enough outrage and stones to tear these fuckers apart, regardless of consequence.
            Our civilization either is worth defending, or it is not.”***


            Although I appreciate the passion, at the end of the day, it is simply what sets us apart from the suicide squad, we value our lives more, hence we’re more prone to pick our fights and most importantly fight smart—– not necessarily less courageous.

            These scenarios aren’t as simple as black and white.

            Of course, a hive attack mentality is the most optimum, works for bees and red ants, but we simply have different priorities (we’re people who value life). Sure if the choice is between dying with bullets in your back, vs. bullets to your face, this should be in every public service announcement, if you ‘re dead you’re dead, no matter the types of exit wounds, so might as well play hero.

            But the scenarios I’m describing here are ones where opportunity and priority differ,

            1. if you’re walking around the mall with your two elementary age kids, you’re a cop, and the shooter starts shooting 5 ft. from you. well opportunity and priority have consolidated. your choice has been narrowed for you. you kinda have no choice but to go with the bee and red ant hive attack. FIGHT.

            2. but if you have an opportunity to run, ie. you’re standing by the exit and the shots fired are all the way on the other side of the mall, hell, by all means take your kids to safety. RUN.

            3. now if you’re running out the exit, and you hear another volley in the direction you’re running towards, ie. another shooter, and you see a maintenance door and it’s a perfect hiding spot, by all means hide with your kids in there. HIDE.

            Now if you ‘re a bachelor cop , a lone-wolf type like Riggs from Lethal Weapon, and you’re doing your holiday shopping, there are enough Hollywood movies to invoke (ie. Bruce Willis) to get you to play hero. Not to mention TV movies, a book deal maybe, 15 min. of fame, etc. There’s enough there to motivate would-be hero’s.

            If it’s any consolation, these bachelor / hero cops are a plenty, so too are Good Guys with Guns (though these guys I tend to equate to Fat Guys with Guns, who tend to not like PT ;-) LOL!).

            And if these last 15 years of GWOT are any proof, it’s that we outnumber the suicide squad by courage, to be sure, we don’t have to go blowing ourselves up or following their suicide -based tactics,

            we have courage, but we also fight smart (that’s very important)… that’s all I’m espousing here, raven.

            Fight smart. I’m not saying the off-duty, out of towner, Sheriff in this story is fighting smart necessarily, only that off-duty cops who don’t engage aren’t necessarily in the wrong.

          5. LCpl Martinez 29 Palms

            ***”No radio? No backup? Well, you get the incident you get, not the one you want. Improvise, adapt, overcome.”***


            I’m pretty sure going balls out every time isn’t the most practical way of doing things, sure, going Rambo will have it s successes, but even in the military going solo is looked down upon.

            There’s a reason for that, John.

            This Rambo stuff’s only good in movies. Granted, some Rambo moves have paid off, most definitely (I’m sure Hognose, has some stories). My issue is making Rambo moves the high bar, cookie cutter solution.

            It’s just not.

          6. LCpl Martinez 29 Palms

            ***”And yeah it is a Cops job to stop a mass shooter. Thats why they exist. Would some guy in the army get to bow out of a fight in a city because his family lived in it?”***

            I agree, if that cops on-duty, gets the radio call, has other cops, has rifles and shotguns, etc. The cop off-duty doesn’t have to is my point, he sure can if he so deems it , but he’s not mandated to play Rambo .

            As for the military comparison, military and police are different of course, but when stateside our military don’t carry military weapons, but if they are on libo or leave and shopping at the mall, they are also not expected nor mandated to play hero.

            I think you guys are expecting way too much of your police and military (when off-duty) and confusing good tactics vs. what they must or must not do in these types of situations.

          7. bloke_from_ohio

            Every adult is honor bound to protect people. Depending on the situation that could mean grabbing your family and anyone else near by and booking out of the kill zone. It could mean ordering/facilitating the afore mentioned retrograde while covering the escape with your weapon. It could be helping others hide and then lying in wait to ambush the would be attacker. Or, it could mean clearing leather and turning the one-way shooting gallery into a two-way range.

          8. John M.

            @LCPL Martinez–

            “I’m pretty sure going balls out every time isn’t the most practical way of doing things, sure, going Rambo will have it s successes, but even in the military going solo is looked down upon.”

            Maybe you and I aren’t disagreeing as much as we thought. I’m not arguing for “going balls out every time.” Kamikaze Kop isn’t my angle here. But what I am saying is that sworn LEOs have both privileges and duties that don’t apply to the rest of us. IMHO, one of those duties is marching to the sound of the guns, irrespective of what condition they find themselves in when the guns start firing. If a LEO is alone caring for his four young children at the mall? That’s an edge case. But if he’s there with his wife, maybe his wife can take care of herself the same way my wife would be expected to.

            My normal assumption is that cops have a responsibility to do dangerous things that the rest of us aren’t expected to do. Not suicidal things. Not irrational things. But dangerous things.

            “Sorry, honey, gotta go. Duty calls.”

            -John M.

  7. Nynemillameetuh

    1: Another weird MENA with sexual hang ups that just *needed* to be here, because reasons.
    2: I wonder what situational awareness was like before industrialization?

    1. Bert

      It was mandatory. I worked with a guy who was a young Lieutenant in the Cambodian military, who settled by Madison WI after fleeing the Khmer Rouge insanity.

      Soun was raised by his frandfather in a jungle, not a city. His grandfather trained him, from the time he was old enough to walk and talk, whenever he approached Soun outdoors, he TRIED TO SNEAK UP ON HIM FROM BEHIND. Grandpa would pick up a long stem of grass, a twig or a flower with a long stem and creep up on the boy when he thought he could do it without being noticed. If grandpa got close enough, he touched the kid on the back of the neck gently with the blade of grass, flower or whateved to inform him “sucker! You are SO dead…”

      Best case, Soun should turn, block grandpas attack and tap grandpa with the twig he had sureptitiously picked up on noticing grandpa was stalking him, without having given away that he was aware of the stalk… Much praise, maybe a shaved ice for the kid when you went to town.

      Worst case, grandpa completed the mock attack, and you did not know before feeling that tickle on the back of your neck. As a child, good natured laughing. As a young teen, good natured scolding…

      As a late teen, right before he got out of lycee and was drafted? Grandpa BOXED YOUR EAR, and told you with strong language what a grand fou you were, and you bettter not keep smoking that stuff that turns you into a zombie after they draft you!

      Soun found it endlessly amusing to sneak up behind me while I was eating lunch, soldering a circuit board or using tools that would not actually cut my fingers off, and lightly touch me on the back of the neck with about a foot long piece of light gauge wire. He would just chuckle and walk away shaking his head… After a year or so, he seldom “got” me.

  8. Sabrina Chase

    This general area is where I was born and grew up. I was very surprised, actually, that nobody at the mall was armed because that area is quite gun-friendly. There is even a stellar gun range right across the freeway from that very mall. However (and possibly as a consequence) the area is also quite safe–or used to be. Gang-bangers and terrorists happen in the big city, doncha know, and we don’t have large fauna problems either. Situational awareness isn’t just for your immediate environment. The fact that a local sheriff–who would be up-to-date on the current goblin status–felt no need to carry is an indicator. I’m sure he will carry that regret the rest of his life.

  9. Air

    All the cops I know/knew carried, if only to be prepared incase they met the @$$hole arrested last week…

  10. Ray

    EDC means CARRY EVERY DAY! If a gunman enters your defensive space with intent. Don’t run you’ll get shot in the back. DON’T for the LOVE OF G_D hide yourself in a one door room and wait to die. Turn into your attacker AND SHOOT! As long as the enemy can draw breath they can shoot. Remember your fundamental’s. Center mass and keep shooting until they drop or run. IF you hit them keep shooting until the SOB is down. That is the only thing anyone needs to “take away” from this.

  11. Larry Kaiser

    There are several take aways from this video. One that has not been mentioned is that a .22 rifle is a lot more deadly than most people think. When I was about 10 the neighbor kid and I had a disagreement. I said that a .22 short could kill a person. He said it could not and he was willing to let me shoot at him from my yard. The shot would have been about 25 or 30 yards and I am sure I would have hit him. Fortunately I had good training in firearms safety and refused to even touch the rifle which I am sure he did not have permission to mess with. If I had shot him and hit him right between the eyes I wonder if anyone would have bought my defense. “He told me to do it”!

    1. Trone Abeetin

      My uncle many years ago was shot several times in Boston with a .22, didn’t know it until the guy who shot him was running away and he looked down.
      He walked a block and had a friend drive him to the Mass General.
      When it comes to .22 I’d say your milage may vary…. wildly.

    2. John M.

      I have a 10/22 with the 25 round mag. It’s not the first gun in the safe I’d go for in an “incident,” but I’m confident that I could put the hurt down on someone with it.

      -John M.

  12. Squid

    Almost irrelevant comment: The mall is in Skagit county. Island county is one over and mostly made of islands. That Sheriff was out of his own area and probably felt his neighbors had him covered. He may have planned a cold one at the excellent brew pub down the road as a reward for shopping with the missus. When I was there you couldn’t carry and bend an elbow.
    It is a very gun friendly area and many of the folk there usually carry.

    In college I once suddenly found myself rendering first aid to someone who’d been shot several times with a .22 and made it down the block and into the laundromat before collapsing. Three hits took him out of the action rapidly.
    My cop housemate showed up shortly and it turned out that the “robbery victim” (a somewhat common event locally in the crack era) I was tending to with my one good towel was actually interrupted in the midst of a violent B&E involving an ex-girlfriend and her new love. That day I learned that things aren’t always what you first think they are, a torso hit can leave a lot of blood under the clothes before you notice it, and shot placement beats caliber.

    1. Mike_C

      >it turned out that the “robbery victim” […] was actually interrupted in the midst of a violent B&E […] things aren’t always what you first think they are
      Hoo boy, yeah. I have a story involving a young man with a suspected STEMI (major heart attack), complicated by a supposed raccoon bite to the crotch that had festered, and a crippled, wheelchair-bound wife “an’ she ain’ got nowhere to stay ’cause we don’ know no one here” from a self-proclaimed economic migrant/patient. All of which turned out to be utter bullshit, except that there really was some teeny woman (looked to be about 85 lbs) in a teeny wheelchair in the waiting area. No STEMI (or any heart attack), no raccoons were involved in the genesis of the crotch rot (okay, the crotch rot was real, and a hellacious mess), and guy wasn’t looking for work. Weeks later I learned that he was a two-times violent felon from Texas who’d skipped the Lonestar State in favor of the PR Massachusetts because he was facing (a new set of) assault charges back home. And when he had nowhere to stay at night, his MO was to show up at a hospital ER faking a heart attack. He was not anticipating the 24/7 cardiac cath lab availability in Boston (or the idiot ER doc on duty who activated the lab – virtually impossible to walk it back once activated, for various reasons, of which liability is high up there), vs the little rural hospitals (overnight observation with serial ECGs and troponins!) he was used to.

      Oh, the relevance to “not what you think they are”: It was winter, 15-deg F out, and about 2230 when we got done in the cath lab and I heard his sad story while holding his groin. (Holding groin = compressing the wound we made in his femoral artery in the course of inserting the cardiac cath wires and tubing. Nothing kinky. Anyway, this takes some 10-20 minutes where you’re stuck by the bedside holding pressure, so you hear stories, if you are so inclined.) In a moment of insanity I considered letting the supposed spouse in the teeny wheelchair stay in our guest room at home while raccoon-guy stayed overnight at the hospital, the poor young couple being so pitiful and all.

      So did the B+E artiste who caught the .22 rounds survive? (The black shame and pity of it, ochone, if he did.)

  13. Squid

    I was amazed at how “abrupt” the cops were about handling him but the ambulance crew didn’t discriminate. They threw away my towel and patched the bleeder in the middle, put band aids on the other two .22 holes, and he went off to whatever place they put hurt offenders. My housemate had a chuckle at my concern for someone who was apparently known to the local authorities and went back on the beat. We never heard of any outcome so our hero presumably survived, made bail, and found new love elsewhere.

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