How’s your state for concealed carry? The best? The worst?

Law-ScaleAndHammerWe can relate to the natural desire of people to put states in rank order of CC friendliness, having gone from a state with one of the worst concealed carry climates (MA) to a couple of states with much better records.

Not surprisingly, the states with high crime where gruesome murders are in the news tend to be restrictive. This is a correlation only; people can and do argue the way the arrow of causation points.

Some people are not happy with this or that detail of what Guns and Ammo magazine has done to rank the states. We dunno; their results comport pretty well to conventional wisdom. In some cases, they’re quantifying the same variable twice, for instance, when they measure number of states that recognize a permit, they’re measuring something that has an inverse relationship with amount of training time required.

We don’t get why duty to inform is a big issue to them. Unless it is being used as a stick to beat legit gun owners with, which wouldn’t surprise us out of some of these jurisdictions.

But kudos to Guns and Ammo for trying:

Over the past few decades, most states in the country have gradually shifted their carry laws to become less restrictive. Despite fewer restrictions, legally carrying a concealed firearm remains vastly different from one state to another—and in some cases one town to another. The diversity of laws naturally creates ambiguity around the entire topic of concealed carry legislation.

Aside from background checks, training requirements and application fees, states are generally classified into one of four categories, based on how they issue licenses.

  1. Permitless/Unrestricted.
  2. Shall-Issue
  3. May-Issue
  4. No-Issue/Restricted

Currently, Shall-Issue is the most common method of issuance, with 38 states issuing licenses without discretion, as long as an applicant meets distinct criteria in the law. States with unrestricted concealed carry—other than Vermont—also issue permits on a Shall-Issue basis so individuals can travel out of state, and still legally carry a concealed firearm in states with reciprocal agreements.

So we set out to objectively rank the Best States for Concealed Carry based on measurable criteria. Outside of the data we measured are several other factors that are difficult to quantify—such as transport laws and places restricted from carry. Keep in mind we are specifically focusing on concealed carry, rather than open carry. Just like our “Best States for Gun Owners in 2013,” no state earned a perfect score.

via The Best Concealed Carry States in 2013 (Text Only) – Guns & Ammo.

As they mentioned, they also made a list of “Best States” for gun owners, which actually was, like this, a rank-ordered list of the 50 states and the District of Columbia (which of course, is the cellar dweller on both lists).

There aren’t many surprises here. States noted for outdoor life and libertarian politics generally did well. Coastal People’s Republics generally sucked rocks.

Depending on your particular gun interests, the data may skew a different way. Back in the 1980s, an armorer at Ft Bragg who was also a Class III FFL/SOT on the side insisted that our home state of Massachusetts was “a Free State” because it was one of the approximately 30 states that then permitted Class III weapons. We knew that Mass. was a living hell for gun owners even then, but his Manichaean view of the universe had Free and Slave states, with the only distinction being whether they permitted the connected to get Class III toys (because in MA, then you could get an MG but it was like a pistol permit: you had to have a rare chief of police, or be connected. That’s still the way it is).

5 thoughts on “How’s your state for concealed carry? The best? The worst?

    1. Hognose Post author

      No dobře. Možna, i doufám, že dalši krajiny sledovají. (Sorry, that’s not quite Slovak, but Czech fits, eh?)

      1. Y.

        Czech, like Slovak or Latin is hard to learn because of all complex grammar.

        Other countries– I know of no other in Europe with shall-issue CCW. Maybe one of the small Baltic Republics. Even Finland is shall-issue.

        Switzerland is just like Slovakia – for example, a friend of mine got a CCW because he was once mugged, and due to his small stature(5’9″) he could perhaps be targetted again. Very slight guy for his age cohort – most are ~6′.

        I’m 6’4″ and I make people nervous, walk too fast, ask the wrong questions, the 980m stare.. etc etc. Not the usual target.

        However, one can somehow wrangle out the CCW out of the cops. I don’t remember how but if you pester them long enough they gotta give it to you, even though you haven’t ever been mugged or threatened over phone or run a shop or whatever.

    1. Hognose Post author

      I just went through the whole video, and then checked the OhioCCW site as I seemed to recall that the officer in question was fired (and from the video, deservedly fired).

      http://ohioccw.org/Search/newest-first.html?searchphrase=any&searchword=Canton%20PD

      The most disturbing part on the video is when Harless tells the guy he should have just shot him and lied about why he did, and that his partner (whose ID’d on the tape as Mark) would have sworn to it. From a lot of reading about police, it’s probably true. “Mark” who backed up Harless in all this, was never disciplined, and you have to assume that both the PD and the town are still in the grip of extreme anti-gunners.

      The city council is trying to pay snitches $100 each to turn in gun carriers so they can get the Canton PD treatment.

      If Mark ever has a shooting incident, any half-awake attorney can use his acquiescence and support of Harless on this tape against him and the city. From a liability standpoint, not firing him is foolish, but they seem to be in the constricting grip of ideology.

      ETA: the other cop was Mark Diels, and he was put on the stand by the prosecution (they weren’t going to expose Harless to cross-examination). Diels admitted on the stand that he and Harless filed a false report.

      http://ohioccw.org/201111094989/live-bartlett-trial-blog.html

      Diels has not been disciplined. He certainly hasn’t been charged with perjury, as you or I would. Looks like Ohio is pretty lawless in places.

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